Indian Flats Falls with Robert

Indian Flats Falls with Robert

Tuesday May 16, 2017

Robert Shaw 

Dana Koogler

8 miles RT hike 

Link to Robert's Videos

Link to Robert Shaw's Pix

   I had planned to finally meet up with a friend from Facebook to hike for the first time.

He and his family would be vacationing in the Smokies.  They are not too big on hiking and

consequently he goes on shorter stuff with them or auto tours.  He tries to get in half day hikes

either solo or with friends the mornings they are on family trips.  It is a fair compromise. Keeps everyone happy.  Kenny woulda liked to have gone, but had to work.  I look forward to introducing him to Robert.  

First picture I got the camera to take today x 12!!! A dozen photos of this backpack! arrgh!

       

    I have very limited photos from this hike since Kenny Koogler and someone else who shall

remain nameless screwed up the settings on my camera. It took me a long while to figure out how to fix it.   It was set to a timed delay that had a ten second pause followed by a dozen rapid fire photos of the same damn thing.  Augh!  Some kinda help is the kinda help we all can do without.    I have asked Robert if he'd mind allowing me to include a link to his photos and videos from that hike. We'll see.

          We met at Tremont Institute Tuesday morning. We headed back to the trailhead. 

I had us take separate vehicles as I had never hiked with him before. My concern was that

he'd be in a hurry since he was on a time table, and that I would not be able to keep up with him on his way out. I figured if we had both cars he could hurry on out if he needed to and I'd hike out at my own pace.  Folks can present themselves anyway they choose on the internet.

He turned out to be genuine. Just as presented and even nicer.  I look forward to meeting his wife and the rest of his family.  He is a quality guy and I am sure they are too. 

       We set off up the trail and it seemed to fly by.  It is always so much fun meeting someone new and getting to learn about them.  It makes the time go by faster and the hike to seem far more pleasant.   I tried to be certain to point out places we should stop along the way.   The hike

in is fairly level and today we were blessed that it was not crowded.  We saw people off and on through the day, but not a lot and those we did run into were very nice folk.  We stopped and visited with several of them. One group to give them directions and tips for other stuff to see.

Another older couple just to talk about trekking poles and visit with them.  

        We hit all the usual good spots like the various cascades along the way in.

Lynn Camp Prong and its cascades and falls. We stopped by the old car on the way.

We also stopped for a snack break at the intersection with Panther Creek Trail.   I remarked to him about how a lot of folks don't care for it or use it thanks to the ford being a wade.

It is a wade any time of the year, but it can be pretty swift in Winter or early Spring. I couldn't believe we were already at that intersection.  We also stopped to explore the few ruins along the trail a short distance further.   The ruins of the old CCC camp and the Lynn Camp School foundation.  I saw the metal railroad pieces sticking out in the trail in two spots. 

Beautiful Vasey's trillium deep and dark maroon. Easy to miss because they are hidden beneath the leaves of the plant.  One of the better photos I finally took today again x12.  

     We did not see a lot of stuff blooming today, but a few things. A few Vaseys' trilliums.

We stopped by a few pretty holes of water. I had realized at the first cascade my camera was FUBAR'd so I did not get it out too often. I did monkey with it a few times trying to fix it.

I finally got it to take a few pictures, but it was still not right.     We stopped by a couple particularly pretty water holes on Lynn Camp both on the way up and back.  I pointed out

the spots where manways existed and tried to give a thumbnail sketch of where each one went.

Robert is not a big fan of off trail hiking, but he doesn't mind a little bit. Today we'd have to leave the official trail to reach Indian Flats Falls and that was easy enough.

     The things keeping me from being too upset about my camera situation were that 

1. I had great company 2. The hike was beautiful and the day perfect.  3. I had done this hike many times before.  I figured it would be a lesson in being in the moment instead of trying to document the hike.   It turned out to be a refreshing change of pace for me!  I felt very relaxed.  We walked along talking at a decent pace that did not make me feel pushed at all.   Next thing I knew we had arrived at one of my favorite spots in the park. The upper reaches of Middle Prong Trail where you have turned and are on the approach to Indian Flats Falls. I loved that spot the first time I ever hiked there and it has never lost its charm for me.   The forest is deep and green and lush. Springs of water flow down out of the hills and cross the trail.  The remnants of the old trail and bridge are nearby.  

      We were soon at the point where we had to leave the trail and drop down the manway toward Indian Flats Falls. He had never been before and it always pleases me to be with someone the first time they visit a place. It brings a newness to an old location.   We enjoyed different drops of the falls. Today they were flowing healthy and with enough volume to make

them pretty, but not violent or churned up with silt or debris.   The falls here are moss and green and they are in relative solitude. Much less visited than some spots.  The distance of the hike and the fact you have to leave a maintained trail discourage some folks from making the trip.   It is not hard though.  

Third drop of Indian Flats Falls. Yes, I took this. 

       

   We checked out each drop. I pointed out the metal bar embedded in the stone of the third level.   He was of the opinion that may have been a handle to help climb up the rock face. He may be right. I cannot see any more logical reason for it than that.   I sat down on a log to wait while Robert donned his water shoes. He was going to cross the stream below the third drop to get some photos and video. I worked on my camera while I waited.  I finally got it to take a few pictures.  It would also shoot video!  The great thing about this guy? He finally found for himself and me.. the location you have to stand to get all the drops of the falls in one frame!

Cross the creek below the third drop. Climb up on a boulder and you have it!

Well done my friend!

  Robert fording the creek. 

         We wrapped up this part of our journey and headed back down the trail.  

I found that we are a good match pace wise.  Unless he was sandbagging to make me feel better

we are a good team.  He claimed he was not holding back.  I felt very blessed to have met a friend and hiking partner of his caliber.  I look forward to more good times in the future.

 Best photo of the day is below.  I'm home. I'm clean, dry, fed, and comfy. I have finally fixed my poor camera.  It is now functioning normally.  No more touching my camera dudes! 

  

Indian Flats Falls Hike

Looking over the brink of the 2nd drop of Indian Flats Falls 

Indian Flats Falls Day Hike 

Saturday Feb. 20, 2016

Dana Koogler solo 8 miles RT

Pictures are here: Indian Flats Falls Pix

The link below is to the 1931 map which shows both the
Stone Camp Branch Manway and Davis Ridge Manway

   I have hiked to Indian Flats Falls several times.   It had been quite a long spell between trips and I had lost some of the best photos I took of all the drops of it.   I decided to hike out there this particular Saturday to get some exercise and get some photos of the falls.   It was a rainy day, but I took my rain gear and just prayed it would hold off until I got my pictures.    Overcast is what you want for waterfall photos so I was happy about that.  It was not real cold either, but damp and threatening to drizzle at any moment.   I had a couple other ideas in mind as I headed up that way.

I was looking for a couple old manways or unofficial, unmaintained trails from the past.  I was keeping an eye out for those as I went. 

             I decided to forego taking pictures of the usual cascades along Lynn Camp on the way in.

I figured if the rain held off or they missed the forecast I'd get those on the way back. I focused instead on getting up the trail quickly.   I saw a few other hikers, but the number was rather light considering it was a Saturday.   I passed a group of three hikers and we greeted one another.

They asked if I had seen another member of their party? I was able to tell them where I saw him and what he was doing.  They said he'd catch up to them when he was done taking photos of the falls.

I did ask them what their hike was for the day? They were also going to Indian Flats Falls.  

             I stopped along Lynn Camp and checked out the spot to ford for Marks Creek to pick up that manway.  I wanted to inspect that to see if I still had my story straight about where to ford and such for an upcoming off trail adventure with buddies.   I  spotted not only the fording place, but a couple better ones up from that.    I continued on and was looking ever looking at the far bank of Lynn Camp Prong. I was counting creeks trying to identify Stone Camp Branch. I had learned accidentally that 

there was an old manway up that creek! It ran up the stream, over Timber Ridge and down the other side emerging right at Marks Creek Falls.   It turned out to be harder than I imagined to spot a stream coming down and dumping into Lynn Camp Prong. Why?  Once you get upstream a bit the main stream starts to split into two channels and around little islands.   It is very tough to tell if what is seen is a separate creek coming in or if it is just another part of Lynn Camp Prong.  I still thought I saw

the stream and the starts of an old manway, but I was not sure.

            I pushed on and at the intersection with Panther Branch Trail I stopped for a short break.

My breakfast had worn off and it was not yet lunch time so I ate an orange.  I spoke to a fisherman who had been hiking along ahead of me.  He asked me "Is there a big waterfall up this trail?" I told him yes and asked him if he was going to fish in it? He said no.. that he wanted to fish the waters above it where brook trout started.  He went on ahead.   I got up the trail to the spot where 

it widens out and there is some old metal and a foundation from a building of some sort.

It began to rain.  I was discouraged. I felt my heart sink.  Did I want to keep going or just turn around?    I decided to at least put my rain gear on and see how I felt. I said a little prayer for guidance. I finally decided to take a few steps forward in my rain gear.  I had been a little uncomfortable, but my rain gear felt warm and dry and cozy.  It was what I had needed.
I continued on feeling much better.   The forest was beautiful and the stream was rolling past on my left looking so hypnotic.   

             I got to the switchbacks that start the only portion of this hike that has any real climb to it.

I thought somewhere in that area that I saw a manway on the right.   I noticed on the left some pretty cascades I figured should be there based on the topo map. They are not very big , but they are pretty.

I kept going and it seemed like in no time  I was rounding what had to be one of the last bends before the falls.  I had crossed the low bridge over Indian Flats Prong with its pretty mossy cascades. 

Bridge over Indian Flats Prong.  It looks a little wonky, but it is sure good to have it.  

If you know where to look you can still see the remains of the former bridge and its pilings both above this bridge and below it! It is so old it is coated in moss!

            Since the leaves are off the trees I got a glimpse of the falls through the trees!

I had never noticed this before.   I knew I was getting close, but it surprised me to be seeing the falls already.  I started watching closely now. The falls is accessed by a manway to the right.

In a wide sweeping curve  I spotted a manway taking off in the direction of the falls.  I had never used it or even seen it before. I felt a little uneasy, but also interested where it lead?  I decided to try it and if it played out I'd just turn around and continue on the trail.   It was icy and had packed, hard snow on it.  I was very cautious because it was over rocks and a slip would have sure hurt.

It seemed like no time I was popping out at the first cascade!  I saw the fisherman had arrived at the falls already and stood gazing at the first drop.   He apologized for being in my way to which I said nonsense.  He asked me "Is this Lynn Camp Prong?" I told him no that it was Indian Flats Prong.

He looked disappointed and confused. I asked him to give me a second and we'd look at the map together. I told him I felt turned around since I had never come to the falls the way I did today.

We looked together and he said what he wanted was the headwaters of Lynn Camp Prong.

I showed him what he needed to do to get there.   I knew I was where I wanted to be, but I felt like I had used the tesseract to get there.  

             

         

  I had never seen as much water coming over these falls as I found today!  I set up my camera gear and as I did another hiker appeared there with me.  He turned out to be Matthew Patterson. A very nice man who is now a friend!  How lucky can one gal be?   He was an interesting and humorous person to visit with.    We were together at the first drop of this falls. He had been here before also.

Once I got my photo of this drop I continued on down stream using the manway again.   

It provides rough but possible ways to reach each drop of this falls.  I got down to the second one and got some photos.

Second drop of Indian Flats Falls.  

   I then continued down to the third drop.  It has a sloping rock at the upper portion of it.  Since the water was so high and since I was alone and the rocks very slippery I had to be more cautious today.

I did get a side shot of the third drop and it was pretty.  I got a photo for Cal McNabb of the odd metal bar embedded in the stone of the third drop.   Heaven only knows what it was put there for?

I have crawled down to the base of the third drop in the past, but there really isn't a place to stand and you have to just get in the water.  I was not going to do that today.

Third drop of Indian Flats Falls.. the upper part of the third.

Metal bar embedded in the side of the third drop.  It is about 4 ft long!

   I began my hike back out and tried to figure where Paul Gamble said you could get a vantage of all of the drops of the falls?  I never did figure it out.   I realized the hikers who said they were coming up this way still had not arrived. I wondered if the rain caused them to turn back? The rain had stopped while I was at the falls mercifully allowing me to get my pictures taken.  It began again now and harder this time.  I ran into the three hikers finally arriving. They were exploring off trail on the way up and were just in no hurry.  I had a chance to ask them if there was an UPPER manway to the falls or was I dreaming it? They told me yes there was, but there is a lower manway too.  So that settled it in my mind. The lower manway to the falls is better in my opinion.   It cuts off a bit of the trip.. perhaps 1/2 mile total round trip distance.  

                    I had been thinking that up at the high end of the manway I'd look to see if I caught any sight of the vestiges of the old Davis Ridge Manway, but my route change did away with that chance.

What I did not know until today was that the first manway I spotted down along the start of those switchbacks on the right.... was the lower end of the loop.  It used to take off and going clockwise went above Indian Flats Falls and curved around to the right and went across the top of Davis Ridge and looped back down to what is now the Middle Prong Trail in the vicinity of Log Ridge Branch.

 So I had found it after all.  Chuck had mentioned it and I was interested in seeing if I could learn more about it.   

            I met Matthew again on the hike out and we traded contact info so we can do things together.

We are plotting to turn his wife into an off trail hiker. :-)  It was a rainy day, but the rain stopped long enough for me to enjoy the hike and get my photos. I made a new, very nice friend.  Hopefully I'll get to meet his wife and be friends with her as well.